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Some people prefer multiple windows. In any case, patches to allow an MDI interface would probably be accepted, as long as they are good.
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Whilst I disagree that multiple windows is necessarily a "mistake" (I get on just fine with GIMPs interface for example), I think that it maybe is in Synfigs case (or maybe just in some users cases). My work with it so far has been somewhat annoying, especially if I'm reading, say, a tutorial at the same time- workflow is something like:
Give Firefox focus, read next few lines, Bring all four Synfig windows back in front, one by one, and do stuff mentioned in tutorial, and if I forgot a line, switch back to Firefox, reread, and repeat... I don't know, I guess it would work fine with a bigger monitor/higher resolution though (no need to maximise all windows to use them best). Not sure about the technical possibility, but maybe one Synfig window, when given focus, could bring all the other open ones to the fore? I'm sure I've seen some programs with similar behaviours.
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Do you mean bring all images to the front? At the moment synfigstudio brings all the tool windows to the front when you bring an image to the front. How many images do you work with at a time?
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Not necessarily *all* images (Sorry, I may have misunderstood what you meant by images... I assumed it as the window where you draw out your animation?), but the window with the toolbox, the "Navigator, info, palette editor, palette browser...", the window with params, children, keyframes etc... (using the default window/tabs layout)
Also, I just started a Synfig session to test what you said, created a blank, new image, then brought another program to the front, before clicking the button on the toolbar for the image's window. This didn't cause any other Synfig studio windows to also come forwards. I also tried the same with all other Studio windows methodically, just to make sure. Is this behaviour working under Windows (Which is what I'm working with at the minute)?
Perhaps we're at cross purposes on understanding here? In which case, sorry...
And at the minute, I only work with one image window at a time, since I'm not starting any projects with it yet (still trying to figure things out ;)).
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I'm not sure about Windows, I tend to avoid it as much as possible. On my Linux system, with GTK 2.8.18 and GTKmm 2.8.8, I get the behaviour I described before. My test was exactly the same as yours. It is quite possible that the Windows version 2.4.8 of GTK does not yet implement this behaviour. Hopefully the next time that darco compiles the Windows version, he will use a newer version.
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Wise move ;) I, however, do not have the luxury of choice at the minute.
Well, it seems that could be the reason then. Ah well, maybe, as you say, next build.
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I agree, I'd love to learn synfig, it has potential, BUT as it is now, it isn't user friendly...
Single window please!
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If you want synfig to be able to have a single window, please provide a patch. As long as the patch enables users to decide to use multiple windows, the patch would be accepted. Personally, I think this is a low priority change - fixing crashes and other bugs is much higher priority at this stage. If someone wants it so much that they do the work, great. All work on synfig is welcome! I can't speak for darco, but I won't be working on this any time soon.
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Perhaps this is a matter of personal preference... but I like it this way better than those other products you mentioned.
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I think that if someone prefers a single window and puts in the effort to make synfigstudio work like that, we should accept their patch, as long as it doesn't change the default and doesn't break the way we have it now.
Therefore, I'm reopening and marking as "Later".
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There are several issue coming into play when people complain about the gimp interface, and now the Synfig intereface. Part of it is how different it is from all the commercial applications including but not limited to Adobe Photoshop. Inskcape took the sodipodi interface and turned it into something people seem much happier with while still being distinctly different in its own ways (note, the toolbox is not the main window) and so there is plenty of room to change Synfig in ways even the current users might end up liking if they give it a chance.
A menubar and good docking will make things substantially easier for those not particularly comfortable with the gimp layout. Compare gimp 1 to gimp 2. Unfortunately the gimp docking system is only in the gimp not gtk and you'd have to reimplement most of it. Getting the window manager hints set correctly will help, at least on systems with a decent window manager (so microsoft users are mostly out of luck there).
It might be better to rephrase the summary so this bug reflects the desire of users for a less ununusual interface as opppossed to the very specific proposed solution of "single window"
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2012-06-20 > Want a choice to be able to choose a single window or multiple windows setting. Too many windows are distracting and confusing, but there may be people who disagree. There should be a choice on how you would like to work, in multiple windows or a single one, like in adobe programs.
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2012-07-13 04 > Hello. This is Sepero from penguintutorials.com, and I would like to second this request. Thank you
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